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Tim wrote:

Hi, guys —

  • What does the Church have to say to it's members who are not against gay marriage?

Thanks!

Tim

  { What does the Church have to say to members who are not against gay marriage? }

Paul replied:

Dear Tim,

If a person is not against same-sex Marriage it is indicative of four things:

  1. They don't accept the biblical teaching on Marriage.
  2. They don't accept the Church's authoritative teaching on Marriage.
  3. They probably don't accept the Church's infallible teaching on homosexual acts/behavior.
  4. Therefore they would reject the Church's Magisterium as being her official teaching authority, guided by the Holy Spirit, gifted with infallibility on matters of faith and morals.

Objectively, this would place the person outside of communion with Christ and His Body, the Church.

Paul

Tim replied:

Thanks Paul,

I just wanted to check because it's about to be legal in the United States soon, everywhere.

I personally don't have a problem with it. Our diocese was polled and 57% of those polled said it didn't bother them. 76% of those polled between the age 18-50 said it didn't bother them.

Our modern culture has arrived with it but without the Church.

Tim

Bob replied:

Tim,

It really doesn't matter what we think, just ask:

  • What does God think?

If you look at His creation, nature reflects His intent and the complementarity of male and female is apparent with respect to sexual reproduction. The moral code emanates from the law of nature.

Part of the game of God's enemy is to mimic and distort God's Will and Plan in His creation because they have no way of directly attacking God Himself. Therefore we (part of creation) are subjected to many distortions, in our appetites and will — in our very nature. In essence, Satan is a counterfeiter, producing something that is flawed but looks like the real deal. Our collective fall from grace has left us all with issues of one sort or another.

True conjugal love is according to our Creator's Plan, and you need not quote the Bible to discover it.

I hope you will ponder this.

Peace,

Bob Kirby

Tim replied:

Thanks Bob!

I do not support gay marriage, but I do love all people, regardless of their transgressions.

Blessings,

Tim

Mike replied:

Hi, Tim —

You said:
I just wanted to check because it's about to be legal in the United States soon, everywhere.

I personally don't have a problem with it. Our diocese was polled and 57% of those polled said it didn't bother them. 76% of those polled between the age 18-50 said it didn't bother them.

Our modern culture has arrived with it but without the Church.

Who cares if it is legal in the United States. In another reply: I said:

I believe it was St. Thomas Aquinas who said any immoral law, is no law at all.
Roe vs. Wade isn't the first immoral law the Supreme Court has upheld.

It was also Albert Einstein who said:

Never do anything against conscience even if the state demands it.

If you used your cliquish/cultural-conforming mind set, you would have accepted Arianism when, back in the Early Church, most of the Catholic bishops accepted this heresy — a denial that Jesus was of one substance with the Father!

If someone believes in their faith, like the Early Church Fathers, they should be willing to die for it, not to conform to a denial of it.

Finally, you may notice that gay marriage is italicized in red. This is because the mainstream media and news outlets have bastardized a Catholic Christian term: Marriage and strive to equate it with Christian Marriage.

  • Christian Marriage is about life-giving, life-long, sacrificial love that, when possible, products families with many children. In a sacramental Catholic Marriage, three parties are involved:

    1. the husband-to-be
    2. the wife-to-be, and
    3. God, who swears to be the Krazy Glue to help them keep their marital promises.
      (This is where the word sacrament comes from: to swear a covenant oath.)

  • So called, gay marriage, is focused purely on hedonistic pleasure between those of the same sex. It would be more appropriate to call them gay partnerships.

Mike

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