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Anonymous wrote:

Sir,

I'm a hard core protestant since birth but disgusted about what's going on among protestants denomination (reformed and Anglican) regarding approval of homosexuality. I've read one protestant who decided to reevaluate Catholicism who have remain faithful to the Christian moral values since the days of the church fathers and I'm doing the same. Can you send me a Free Catechism of the Catholic Church?

I'm on my way of ordering The Early Church Fathers 38 volumes from a christianbook.com.

I'm also reading Martin Luther's sermons 7 volumes then after that Calvin's Institute of Christian Religion; then the Church Fathers.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church will be helpful so I can compare it the writings of the reformers.

Anonymous

  { Differences among publishers of the writings of the Early Church Fathers. Who can we trust? }

Mike replied:

Hi Anonymous,

I'll send you the Catechism and a "good read": By What Authority, by Mark

I think it's great that you are going to start reading the Early Church Fathers.

I have only one concern. Their are Protestant and Catholic versions of the Early Church Fathers.

Either one you bought is OK, but just remember a Protestant publisher who only carries books by Protestant authors are not going to give you quotes from the Early Church Fathers that back up Catholic beliefs. I don't doubt their quotes, I doubt what is missing from their version of the Early Church Fathers.

It's my understanding that these are Protestant publishers:

  • Wm. B. Eerdmans Publishing
  • Hendrickson Publishers

Unlike the 3 Volume Set by William Jurgen's Version, published by Liturgical Press:

Eerdmans and Hendricks probably won't share with you the quotes that affirm the Authority of the Pope or the Real Presence of Our Lord in the Eucharist, though historically, those quotes exist and can by found in Jurgen's 3 Vol set. I personally, would look for a similar 38 volume set of the Early Church Fathers from a Catholic publisher.

Hope this helps,

If others are interested in our web site, we welcome new visitors!

Mike

John replied:

Mike,

Comparing Jurgen's to other volumes of the Church fathers is not really possible. Jurgen's is 3 volumes containing a handful of quotes designed to provide proof texts.

Hendrickson published the COMPLETE works of the Father in 36 volumes. These volumes include all the major works of the pre-Nicene, Nicene, and post-Nicene Fathers.

They are two different tools --- used for different tasks. If one wants to read the Fathers to understand their approach and their insight, one needs to read their works -- and not just a book of quotes. If one wants a quick reference tool than Jurgen's is a fine little tool.

Hendrickson’s and Eerdman’s translations, like every translation of ancient texts, are not perfect. Then again, look at some Catholic translations of Scripture.

Yes, I’ve heard a handful of complaints (and I have not specific texts) about translation bias in a very few instances. But I’d like to see two Catholic translators agree on every verse in a 36-volume set!

My personal suggestion to Anonymous, is to take it slow with the Church Fathers. I’d start with the Apostolic Fathers, the earliest writings.

I’d also recommend the Greek Orthodox Study Bible. It is a New Testament with Patristic study notes. It will obviously have an Orthodox bias, but the Eastern Christian thinking in the notes will help Anonymous shift paradigms from the Juridical to Mystical.

John

Mike replied:

Hi John,

I would just recommend a similar 38 volume set of the Early Church Fathers from a Catholic publisher.
I'm sure there is one out there. If some one knows of one, please e-mail me.

Mike

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