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Jermaine wrote:

Hi, guys —

  • Who gave the Catholic Church the authority over the Ten Commandments, written by God, to change them?

The Fourth Commandment is a very important Commandment, since it signifies one's allegiance to God.

There is nowhere in the Bible wherein the Sabbath was changed from the seventh day to the first day; even Jesus kept the Sabbath Holy.

Jermaine

  { Who gave the Catholic Church the authority to change the Ten Commandments, like the 4th one? }

Mike replied:

Hi, Jermaine —

Thanks for the question.

You said:
Who gave the Catholic Church the authority over the Ten Commandments, written by God, to change them?

Well, God gave the Ten Commandments to Moses in the Old Testament. That same God revealed Himself to mankind as Jesus Christ. Our Lord made it very clear that He came, not to abolish the Law, but to fulfill it. Before Our Blessed Lord Jesus ascended into Heaven He founded the Catholic Church on St. Peter and gave St. Peter the divine authority to safeguard, protect, and teach in His Name, for past, present and future generations to come. Read Matthew 16:13-20.

No one has changed the Ten Commandments. The Holy Father safeguards the Ten Commandments and ensures all mankind that they will not change.

Similar questions and answers you may have can be found in this web posting:

You said:
There is nowhere in the Bible wherein the Sabbath was changed from the seventh day to the first day; even Jesus kept the Sabbath Holy.

Good point! The Catholic Church with the divine authority Jesus gave to Her, changed that day from the Old Passover, to the New Passover on Easter Sunday, when Jesus, Our Blessed Lord rose from the dead and conquered death itself.

Strange, isn't it that to this day, I know of no Evangelical Protestant groups who go to Church on Saturday. Whether they know it or not, they are trusting in the Catholic Church's decision to change the Sabbath from a Saturday to Sunday, just as they are trusting the Catholic Church's decision on which books belong to the New Testament.

Catholic bishops, guided by the Holy Spirit, decided which books of the Bible were inspired in
382 A.D. at the council of Rome!

Thanks for e-mailing and come again.

Mike

Jermaine replied:

Hi, Mike —

Well, I kind of knew you were planning to use that Scripture because the whole Catholic Church rests on those verses: (Matthew 16:13-20, Matthew 18:18 and John 20:23).

What the Church fails to realize, due to lack of study, faith, and knowledge of the character of God, is that God would never give mere man the power to forgive or remit sins. The only man He gave power to remit sins was Jesus Christ, Who is, Himself, God. God does not want you to put your trust in Peter, Paul or the Pope; He wants you to put your trust in Him. He used the Apostles, not the Pope, to spread the Good News about Him. Christ gave no ecclesiastical right to forgive sin, nor to sell indulgences.

  • What is the meaning of the name, Peter?

Don't know huh? Well Peter means loose stone. Due to misguided men, the Catholic Church has been led astray. When Christ died, He made us all priests by using Him as a sacrifice to God for our sins.

The Seventh Day Adventist Church which is the church that I am a part of, keeps the Bible Sabbath. I would suggest you read the Kings James version of the Bible. It's unbiased. Even Jesus who is God, used the Scriptures to back up His teachings. He actually quoted over 200 texts from the Old Testament. The Apostles also used the Scriptures to teach and to learn. Catholics live of off Papal doctrines more than the Word of God. Catholics alone do not get the Holy Spirit. It is given freely to anyone who asks. A claim like that is blasphemy. The Catholic Church is leading people, who are genuine in heart, love and faith in Jesus, astray but lack proper knowledge of the Bible. The Bible is the only Authority on God. Any teaching that is not supported by the Bible is not of God.

  • Tell me why are you in allegiance with the Pope?

Jermaine

Mike replied:

Dear Jermaine,

You said:
Well, I kind of knew you were planning to use that Scripture because the whole Catholic Church rests on those verses: (Matthew 16:13-20, Matthew 18:18 and John 20:23).

No, it rests on Jesus and the Words of Jesus, who is God.

13 Now when Jesus came into the district of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, "Who do men say that the Son of man is?" 14 And they said, "Some say John the Baptist, others say Elijah, and others Jeremiah or one of the prophets." 15 He said to them, "But who do you say that I am?" 16 Simon Peter replied, "You are the Christ, the Son of the living God." 17 And Jesus answered him, "Blessed are you, Simon Barjona! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven. 18 And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it. 19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven." 20 Then he strictly charged the disciples to tell no one that he was the Christ.

Matthew 16:13-20

  • Why don't you follow the Words of Jesus in your own Bible, like us!

You said:
What the Church fails to realize, due to lack of study, faith, and knowledge of the character of God, is that God would never give mere man the power to forgive or remit sins.

  • But he did right in Scripture; how do you expect any Christian to ignore this?

    19 On the evening of that day, the first day of the week, the doors being shut where the disciples were, for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood among them and said to them, "Peace be with you." 20 When he had said this, he showed them his hands and his side. Then the disciples were glad when they saw the Lord. 21 Jesus said to them again, "Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you." 22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, "Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained."

    John 20:19-23

You said:
The only man He gave power to remit sins was Jesus Christ, Who is Himself God.

Jesus forgives the sin through the special priesthood of Holy Orders that priests have. It was His choice to use men and to call them throughout time, to be His priests and act "in His place",
to distribute His forgiveness. If you don't like His choice for a plan to administer forgiveness,
you have to take it up with Him at your particular judgment.

You said:
God does not want you to put your trust in Peter, Paul or the Pope; He wants you to put your trust in Him.

We don't put our faith in the Pope; we put our faith in Jesus working through the Pope.

You said:
He used the Apostles, not the Pope, to spread the Good News about Him. Christ gave no ecclesiastical right to forgive sin, nor to sell indulgences.

Incorrect, He gave His Church the ecclesiastical ability, to give a remission before God, of the temporal punishment due to sins, whose guilt has already been forgiven. This is the easiest way to explain what indulgences are.

  • Are you saying that Jesus can't choose to give his divine authority to men and work through men, as He wishes?

If so, you are limiting God! For clarification purposes, this is what the Church teaches on indulgences:

What is an indulgence?

"An indulgence is a remission before God of the temporal punishment due to sins whose guilt has already been forgiven, which the faithful Christian who is duly disposed gains under certain prescribed conditions through the action of the Church which, as the minister of redemption, dispenses and applies with authority the treasury of the satisfactions of Christ and the saints."

"An indulgence is partial or plenary according as it removes either part or all of the temporal punishment due to sin." The faithful can gain indulgences for themselves or apply them to the dead.

Side note on past abuses from Catholic Answers:

The Catholic Church does not now nor has it ever approved the sale of indulgences. This is to be distinguished from the undeniable fact that individual Catholics (perhaps the best known of them being the German Dominican Johann Tetzel [1465-1519]) did sell indulgences — but in doing so they acted contrary to explicit Church regulations. This practice is utterly opposed to the Catholic Church's teaching on indulgences, and it cannot be regarded as a teaching or practice of the Church.

In the sixteenth century, when the abuse of indulgences was at its height, Cardinal Cajetan (Tommaso de Vio, 1469-1534) wrote about the problem:

    "Preachers act in the name of the Church so long as they teach the doctrines of Christ and the Church; but if they teach, guided by their own minds and arbitrariness of will, things of which they are ignorant, they cannot pass as representatives of the Church; it need not be wondered at that they go astray."

The Council of Trent (1545-1564) issued a decree that gave Church teaching on indulgences and that provided stringent guidelines to eliminate abuses:
    "Since the power of granting indulgences was conferred by Christ on the Church (cf. Matthew 16:19, 18:18, John 20:23), and she has even in the earliest times made use of that power divinely given to her, the holy council teaches and commands that the use of indulgences, most salutary to the Christian people and approved by the authority of the holy councils, is to be retained in the Church, and it condemns with anathema those who assert that they are useless or deny that there is in the Church the power of granting them.

    In granting them, however, it desires that in accordance with the ancient and approved custom in the Church moderation be observed, lest by too great facility ecclesiastical discipline be weakened. But desiring that the abuses which have become connected with them, and by any reason of which this excellent name of indulgences is blasphemed by the heretics, be amended and corrected, it ordains in a general way by the present decree that all evil traffic in them, which has been a most prolific source of abuses among the Christian people, be absolutely abolished. Other abuses, however, of this kind which have sprung from superstition, ignorance, irreverence, or from whatever other sources, since by reason of the manifold corruptions in places and provinces where they are committed, they cannot conveniently be prohibited individually, it commands all bishops diligently to make note of, each in his own church, and report them to the next provincial synod"

    Session 25, Decree on Indulgences.

In 1967 Pope Paul VI reiterated Catholic teaching on indulgences and added new reforms in his apostolic constitution. See Indulgentiarum Doctrina (cf. Vatican Council II: The Conciliar and Post-Conciliar Documents, ed. Austin Flannery, O.P. [Northport, New York: Costello, 1980], 62-79).

Justified problems in the Church do not give anyone divine authority to interpret the Scriptures the way they wish. During the period of the Reformation, the Church did need reform, but it got revolution!

People like you, Jermaine, believe in the Papacy ... Your own Papacy, which has no authority whatsoever at all. You interpret what the Scriptures say in whatever way you wish.

My Baptist friend, Fred, tells me he doesn't interpret the Scriptures. He just reads the
Holy Scriptures and they speak for themselves and guide him to salvation. My reply was that a reader cannot read any book without interpreting what they have read. How they interpret what they have read is based on their upbringing and prejudices. The same is true with the
Holy Scriptures. The way we interpret what we read will depend on a number of issues:

  • Previous reading of other portions of Holy Scriptures
  • Our educational background, both secular and religious
  • Our knowledge of non-Biblical history
  • Our prejudices: e.g. if we have fallen into the immoral behavior of homosexuality,
    we probably will not want to interpret any verses in Scriptures that condemn the practice
    of homosexuality. The same is true with other sins and sinful habits we have,
    like contraception.

You said:

  • What is the meaning of the name, Peter?

Don't know huh? Well Peter means loose stone.

I'll let our colleagues at Catholic Answers address this error of yours:

You said:
Due to misguided men, the Catholic Church has been led astray.

Granted we have our share of sinners. Come and join us : ) , but the sins of the faithful don't affect the Teachings of the Church. The Holy Spirit guarantees this.

You said:
When Christ died, He made us all priests by using Him as a sacrifice to God for our sins.

Correct! But there are two priesthoods' recognized by the Church. The priesthood of believers,
of which everyone belongs, and the ministerial priesthood, where men are called by Christ to be priests for the Church through Holy Orders: two different priesthoods', with two different natures.

We practice our priesthood as lay parishioners when we participate at Holy Mass every Sunday, and during daily Mass. The more we participate in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, by saying our parts, (by speaking, praying, singing, etc.), the more we exercise our priesthood as Jesus expects us to. During Mass, the universal priesthood of the faithful dialogue with the ministerial priesthood of the priest. This dialogue represents the whole body of Christ worshipping God,
in union with the saints in Heaven as He wishes!

You said:
The Seventh Day Adventist Church which is the church that I am a part of, keeps the Bible Sabbath.

The church you are a part of was founded, not by the God-Man, Christ, but by a woman:
Ellen Gould White in 1860. You are following "the traditions of men" by following a faith that a mere "man" founded.

You said:
I would suggest you read the Kings James version of the Bible. It's unbiased.

I would suggest you read up on who King James was. I believe you will be disappointed.

You said:
Even Jesus who is God, used the Scriptures to back up His teachings. He actually quoted over 200 texts from the Old Testament.

Satan also quoted Scripture in the Garden of Olives to Our Blessed Lord.

  • What's the point?

A Scripture verse taken out of context is a proof text for ones personal interpretation.
The Bible is not a recipe book: Pick your own verses and start your own church.

You said:
The Apostles also used the Scriptures to teach and to learn.

Yes, the Old Testament Scriptures. The New Testament Scriptures were not decided until 382 A.D. at the council of Rome. They were latter ratified at the Councils of Hippo and Carthage in
393 A.D. and 400 A.D. Before that time, no one knew what made up the New Testament.

Only when Catholic bishops made that decision, guided by the Holy Spirit, did we know what books belonged in the Bible.

Every time you open a Bible, you are implicitly saying,

"I believe in the Catholic Church's decision about what books should be in the New Testament."

You said:
Catholics live of off Papal doctrines more than the Word of God.

No, Papal teachings are explanations of what Jesus taught, so Catholics and non-Catholics can better understand the teachings of Jesus. Some of them encourage and explain how we should interpret the Scriptures.

My question for you is:

  • Who gave you the authority to reduce the Word of God to the written Word?
    Read 2 Thessalonians 2:15, 1 Corinthians 11:2, 2 Timothy 1:13-14, and Luke 10:16.

Very few people during Jesus' time knew how to read; they were illiterate. Learning came through listening and hearing what was passed down by the Apostles.

You said:
Catholics alone do not get the Holy Spirit. It is given freely to anyone who asks.

I agree.

You said:
A claim like that is blasphemy. The Catholic Church is leading people, who are genuine in heart, love and faith in Jesus, astray but lack proper knowledge of the Bible.

No, you are leading people astray who are genuine in heart, who are searching for the fullness of Faith that can only be found in the one Church Jesus founded on St. Peter and his successors:
the Roman Catholic Church. You are replacing Jesus with Ellen Gould White. That is blasphemy.

You said:
The Bible is the only Authority on God.
Any teaching that is not supported by the Bible is not of God.

  • Where does it say that in the Bible?
  • Where in the Bible does it say the Bible is the only Authority on God?
  • If there is no place in the Bible, is what you and the Seventh Day Adventist teach
    "not of God"?

2 Timothy 3:16 states:

16 All Scripture is inspired by God and useful for refuting error, for guiding people's lives and teaching them to be upright.

but not only Scripture. Check out my Scripture Passages especially here.

Historically, the Bible was written by Catholics, for Catholics, for use in the Catholic worship service! You may be interested this related posting:

You said:

  • Tell me why are you in allegiance with the Pope?

Because Jesus divinely delegated the Pope as the Prime Minister of His Church.
Read Matthew 16:13-20 and Luke 10:16.

Now, you tell me:

  • Why are you not in allegiance with the Pope?

It is Biblical!

Mike

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